Beyond bias

What our research demonstrates is that good intentions are not enough. Each of us needs to accept that we are biased and then take action to address our personal prejudices

 

Binna Kandola looks at how to overcome the prejudices we hide even from ourselves

Amazing as this may sound, it is possible to eliminate racial prejudice. More amazingly still, it may not be particularly difficult. At least, these are the conclusions of a research project I carried out with colleagues at the Institute of Work Psychology at the University of Sheffield.

It’s common knowledge that there is a big disparity between the employment rate for ethnic minority Britons and that of the population generally. We also know that racial discrimination is a factor in this disparity. Where we struggle, though, is in working out what we can do about it. Legislation has made an impact, but not enough to change the statistics. Setting targets for the employment of minorities remains controversial. Organisations create policies and strategies and hope things will change, but mostly they don’t.

What all this tells me is that there is a general reluctance to recognise the part our emotions and prejudices play in decision-making. (I once sat on a government committee examining the disparities in employment rates between ethnic minorities and the rest of the population, where the chair – who was white – found it almost distasteful to talk about discrimination at all, never mind racism.)

The fact of the matter is we are all biased. Bias is related to identity and we relate more comfortably to people who have the same social identity as ourselves, while also displaying a related, opposing bias against people we see as different. How do we identify people like ourselves? Not surprisingly, factors such as sex and ethnicity are commonly used.

While such preferences would once have been openly expressed, we now live in very different times, with legal protection against discrimination as well as widespread moral condemnation of overt prejudice. It is therefore not surprising that most of us will want to hide any racist or sexist views we have from others. More interestingly, though, we may also hide them from ourselves.

When it comes to recruitment, this is a difficult problem to tackle. How can we make sure an employer is hiring on the basis of merit, not prejudice, when he or she may not even be conscious of their true motivation? Our work at the IWP has indicated a potential solution to this problem. As part of our research, we used the Implicit Association Test (IAT) – a computerised instrument which measures unconscious preferences and beliefs. It does this by asking people to pair two concepts, such as ‘young’ and ‘good’, or ‘elderly’ and ‘good’, to see whether they associate a particular condition with positive or negative connotations. If someone perceives the idea of ‘young’ as being ‘good’, for example, they will react more quickly to that combination than to one which links ‘elderly’ and ‘good’.

We used a group of over 100 professionals (mostly white) as participants in a project studying concepts of ‘race’ and ‘hiring’. The participants were shown a number of faces – some black, some white. They were also shown a selection of either hire-related words (such as accept or select) or fire-related words (reject, sack and so on). We wanted to see whether participants displayed a bias towards associating white faces with hiring and black faces with rejection. In addition, each participant also completed an anonymous paper and pencil test about explicit racial attitudes. The results of this test showed that, as a group, they did not see themselves as being racially prejudiced.

We split the sample into three groups. One group of participants was asked merely to complete the IAT. A second group was told to complete the test, but that in addition their goal was to be fair. A third group was also told to be fair and that the way to be fair was to react as quickly for a black face with ‘hire’ related words as they would for a white face. 

The results were remarkable. The first group showed the highest level of racial bias towards white people. Among the second group, the level of bias was half that of the first, and the last group effectively displayed no bias at all.

There are a number of things worth drawing attention to here. Firstly, remember that this was a group of people who all, from the results of the paper and pencil test on race, believed they were fair minded and free from racial bias. Their test reaction times, however, suggested unconscious prejudice. 

Secondly, it showed that having fairness as an explicit goal can reduce the degree to which we may hold and display bias.

Finally, it showed that a fairly straightforward mental orientation exercise can help us tackle our own unconscious biases.

Obviously, more research is needed, and we are working on that. Our second study is looking at gender stereotyping and the results appear very promising. The process we’ve used can also be applied to other forms of prejudice.

What it demonstrates is that good intentions are not enough. Each of us needs to accept that we are biased. We then need to take action to address our personal prejudices. Our research shows that spending a few minutes before making important decisions instructing ourselves on the importance of being fair can help us to produce just – and therefore better – decisions.

This is a new and potentially valuable line of enquiry into a difficult issue. The government and the various inquiries, commissions and agencies it has set up to investigate the problems of prejudice inevitably end up talking about the difficulty of dealing with ‘employer discrimination’. The solution is almost always seen as more legislation, but this leaves business leaders who participate in such investigations in a quandary. They know a solution is needed, but they don’t want more laws.

The result is always a recommendation along the lines that employers should reform themselves, with the suggestion that, if nothing changes, then the government should introduce stronger legislation in a few years’ time. In other words, a fudge that lacks any integrity whatsoever.

To deal with a problem, we have to understand it. We have an opportunity here to explore a hugely complex issue with some promise of positive solutions. The most amazing thing, however, is the lack of interest, thus far, from policy-makers and politicians. The sooner they realise that the psychology of prejudice may hold the key to dispelling it, the sooner we may be able to get practical and financial support for this important research.

Professor Binna Kandola is a senior partner at business psychology consultancy Pearn Kandola

37 Comments

It is fine for Binna Kandola’s research to point that we need to accept that we are biased and take action to address prejudices and I am certain that most of bodies would agree with the results and outcome of her research not only because the conclusions might be factual but because it is safe to agree with the research’s conclusions, whether these are put into practice is another matter. In practice to accept and address prejudices is not always possible at the macro level because manager's of bodies within which the inequality grievances have been raised are most likely to challenge the concerns of the victim rather than resolve and learn lessons. This is because managers are paid to retain the creditability of the organisation.The new laws and new government funded bodies may boost the moral of UK at the round tables in the world but we all are aware that race related incidents both at grassroots and within the professional bodies are on the increase. Just look at mental health of minority, unemployment within the non whites, race concerns within the professions, educational achievements of the non whites, self-employment rates among the non whites, crime and race,the race cases in the Courts and race concerns within the Law profession. Further in practice the victim of race might become more biased and his/her personal prejudices would harm him/ her if worker’s grievances or complaint are challenged rather than investigated and resolved. This does more harm to the Country, although it might have started with an individual. I wait to see how CEHR would accept and act on the Binna Kandola work or is this research is going to be used for references for further academic researches. Chander Sunak

Chander Sunak
12 Oct 2007

Give me more information about community and racial equality thankss.

Tagne jerome
14 Oct 2007

I have to smile sometimes we talk about getting rid of the difference, yet I see people who have been born here and parents have been born here and grandparents who have been born here still say they are African British or African American. My father was German I am Welsh I am not a white German Welsh person. We get forms from the DWP which asks are you white, Asian white British African or Black, what the hell has this to do with anything, your either British or not Colour and race whats that got to do with it, your pointing out the difference because some people want to keep that difference. I mean if we had the federation of White Police officers people would say thats racist, yet we have a federation of black officers why. We are keeping the difference.

Robert
18 Oct 2007

Why enter CEHR web site if one believes that Colour and Race do not make any difference? A citizen wants to be equal but in UK citizens are treated differently because he /she might belong to a minority group. It is the majority that continues to treat the minority different and the minority continues to prove through researches that there are differences that need to be resolved but in practice this does not happen. (See the latest research carried on behalf of the Commission by GFK- NOP poll). The forms that you get from DWP that request you to state whether you are white or non white British firstly, make the non whites feel that they are acknowledged and secondly it helps the government to make policies based on the number of non whites who approach bodies similar to DWP for their services. Whether the policies help the minority remains to be seen because the racial problems have not decreased even though we had CRE for years and now Equality and Human Rights Commission. The minority groups within many professional exist because that is one way for the minority to share individual’s problems behind closed doors. This does not mean that minority professional groups have the power to change the ideology of the majority and I view the small groups as passive because in most instances they do not have any real power within the workplace and the majority decides the ground rules of minority groups in the first place. I have even seen white managers acting as heads of minority groups within the workplace. If and when minority have effective federations then only this Country would have federations of white workers or white professionals. That time has not come yet and I don’t think that minority would be provided or allowed to have the resources to be effective to the point that their struggle would make the whites victims in UK. The whites already have political parties or who knows might have groups that only look at interests of white race. I as an individual victim of racism experienced within the Local Government and the way my concerns have been dealt in the Country it is not even my dream that we would be ever equal in UK. Chander Sunak

Chander Sunak
18 Oct 2007

But your as bad as other people saying whites within your statement because you are doing the same as others your causing segregation. what the use of having a confederation of Black police officers, what we need is a federation of all officers, and to make sure a coloured person an Asian person a disabled person get a chance to be at the top, not at the bottom, even to change the rules to allow minorities to have more say by making sure they are placed into government into councils and into placed to make a change. But if we still keep this idea of this confederations all we do is make people think that as you call them whites do have something to worry about. We need to get people together not separation. I note also you say whites like we are something to despise.

Robert
21 Oct 2007

Oh Lord. I don't read it that Chander is saying ALL whites are bad. And I've had the "minority forums just encourage segregation" discussion with others before too many times. Pick any interest group you like (political parties, unions, consumer groups, hobbyists!) - by yourself no one listens, club together you've a fighting chance your particular concerns will be heard. And it's a hell of a lot easier to talk about something sensitive to a person who you know to be understanding. Why record it? You can't monitor what you don't measure. You can't tell if you're achieving aims you don't monitor. There are different cultural perspectives and prejudices from Region to Region, even town to town. Why can't you recognise that applies even more to visible distictions of "otherness" (black to white, white to black, gender, etc), Robert? Could it be you're hiding your own prejudices from yourself?! I'm definitely prejudiced. I recognised that by the time I was about 17. We all have to pre-judge: it's how the brain copes with the world, or it'd have too much to process. Just check out some optical illusions for lighthearted evidence. The important thing, for me, and what I hope is picked up from this study and put to practical use in workplaces through awareness training, is that we can recognise this in ourselves without self-loathing, and DO something about it.

Deanne
22 Oct 2007

Oh Lord. I don't read it that Chander is saying ALL whites are bad. And I've had the "minority forums just encourage segregation" discussion with others before too many times. Pick any interest group you like (political parties, unions, consumer groups, hobbyists!) - by yourself no one listens, club together you've a fighting chance your particular concerns will be heard. And it's a hell of a lot easier to talk about something sensitive to a person who you know to be understanding. Why record it? You can't monitor what you don't measure. You can't tell if you're achieving aims you don't monitor. There are different cultural perspectives and prejudices from Region to Region, even town to town. Why can't you recognise that applies even more to visible distictions of "otherness" (black to white, white to black, gender, etc), Robert? Could it be you're hiding your own prejudices from yourself?! I'm definitely prejudiced. I recognised that by the time I was about 17. We all have to pre-judge: it's how the brain copes with the world, or it'd have too much to process. Just check out some optical illusions for lighthearted evidence. The important thing, for me, and what I hope is picked up from this study and put to practical use in workplaces through awareness training, is that we can recognise this in ourselves without self-loathing, and DO something about it.

Deanne
22 Oct 2007

I must be special then because I see people not Colour or race or religion. The way I look at things if I was living in poverty in Africa Poland or anywhere else and had a family, I'd move to get a better life. But my argument if we keep having or pointing out we are different be it Colour religion or disability we will never be equal. As I said if we had a white only police federation all hell would break lose, so why is it OK to have a black only police federation, or a Muslim federation or any other which only allows one race or Colour to join. We need to get everyone involved and ensure fairness.

Robert
23 Oct 2007

I think that both Chander and Robert are proving exactly what Prof Kandola is talking about in her report except their views come from opposite sides of the spectrum. Chander referrs to the plight of "Non Whites" and details the inequalities in employment and indeed society. He fails to see however that he is quite obviously showing his prejudice against those of a White ethnic background. Robert on the otherhand seems to indicate that he has no pre-judgement of others and insists that we should all jump together into the big melting pot and live happily ever after. However, his statements do show a strong bias toward those of a White ethnic background and also a prejudice against "non whites" when he referrs to the unfairness of an all Black Police federation and the unfairness of the fact that we can't have a White Police Federation. This is my take on both of their statements at least anyway. I am not saying in any way that either are racist I would like to add. As for the report it is interesting reading. I have to admit that I would consider myself as a fair minded individual and that I don't hold any racial, gender, sexual etc prejudices. Exactly as each of the participants of this test considered themselves to be - proving that we could all benifit from further research into possible solutions into this widespread problem. And good luck to them! Davie

Davie Morgan
24 Oct 2007

It might help you (majority) and us (minority) if you saw the differences of Colour, Race or Religion and Gender, Sex and Class because then you might be aware of our problems and help to resolve them that is if you want equality in this Country. White people went to India to get better. Some Indians were moved from India to other parts of the world to make white people get even better. Indians were even shipped to UK to work in the industries. When UK got rich and British rule began to end, some Indians thought that they would get better in UK but are they better? Unemployment is high among Asians; Mental Health is on the increase among Asians, Asians face racial problems at work, Asians are expected to be ‘coconuts’ and so on. These racial problems were acknowledged and the Government encouraged federations so that Indians could share their common problems among themselves. Employers encouraged non white groups at work place because there were race problems within work place. But these groups were not provided any power. These groups allow the non white workers to cry on each other shoulders and continue to face the racial abuse. There are professional and non professional non white groups. The Country would have white federation if whites were in minority or they felt they had problems because of their colour. For this, there is BNP in UK. Even state funding bodies that are related to Equality problems do not solve the problems because the state provides these bodies only limited power. At times I believe that bodies similar to CEHR act as a shield to keep the minority oppressed rather than resolve the problems. Why has racial problems increased even though CRE existed many years ago, Race Laws were made, Racial polices were hanged on the walls of employers’ offices and shop floors. Many Local bodies were and are funded to tackle inequality. Researches are out regularly that conclude that the race problems are on increase. But has inequality decreased or disappeared? Furthermore people who join in equality game do not always have interest in inequality and might work in the field to earn a living. The workers need to fulfil the requirements of the employers to stay in employment. An individual employee in inequality game might not be able to confront employer of accepted prejudices for his/her risk of being unemployed involved. Of course some non white would allow themselves to be used for to get better at an individual level. At times it might be easier to obtain a job or climb a ladder of statues by being non white. The non whites need to learn to accept their statues in Europe and continue to live under a cloud of depression with hope to be equal. Lastly, let us not forget that forget that non whites also have personal prejudices and may be some one needs to look into for the reasons for this. I believe that inequality would never be resolved and I hope race would not be the cause of another war. End of the day it is the power of one human over another human we are talking about. Chander

Chander
24 Oct 2007

I read Davie’s comment after I had posted my comments. I am pleased that Davie understands my language. I at least acknowledge my prejudice and it is not harmful to any person who is non white because since my work experience within Local Council, I try my best to keep away from the majority. If my ex employer the Local Government, the bodies and individuals’ involved at the high level in the Country had resolved my race problems rather than abuse their power to cover the problem I would have been working and not sat at home labelled as unemployable. I am not disputing Prof. Kandola’s conclusions but researches similar to this do not always benefit minority. How many people in the work place where victims are abused further because of reporting differences are going to read this research and would their culture change? Please read another recent poll used by Mr. Trevor Phillips to support his recent speech but would culture at work place change after the speech been made. I am not saying that you are not a fair person but this can only be tested if and when you become part of the inequality game. There are pressures from the top to cover up problems at work resulting into victims. To the Country an individual victim does not matter not unless it damages the image of the Country or the body. There might be several victims who just spend the whole life with grief. Chander

chander
25 Oct 2007

Good god man, try being disabled for a while then you will know about being treated different, the problem is you talk about white people like we are some strange race although your comments you have white people. I am the son of an immigrant, I see myself as being Welsh because i was born here brought up here and live here. If you want to be accept as being part of this country then join it, your only a minority if you allow your self to become one. I do not see my self as a minority I am part of the human race the biggest majority. Stop moaning about minorities and become the majority. If people do not like the way I am then so be it.

Robert
01 Nov 2007

First of all may I make it quite clear that these in no way are ment to be racist comments in fact I work with people from many nationalities. People who arrive on this countries door step must realise that even open mined persons like myself are getting totally fed up with having our ways of life and culture thrown out. We are sick and tired of being politically correct. Having our ways changed so as not to upset immigrants. There is an old proverb in Britain which says "While in Rome do as the Romans do". This is why when we travel abroad we accept foriegn cultures, religion and rules. Hence even the Queen takes off her shoes or hat or wears a scarf when visiting religious buildings. We respect laws on drinking alcahol in arab states. Need I go on. Now lets turn our attention to Britain. If people want to come and live hear,thats fine but why after many years of living here do they still talk in their native tongue. Speaking or just even trying to speak English shows that they are trying to integrate with lets face it a BRITISH SOCIETY. When children are in our schools the correct school uniform should be worn etc etc etc. If people are not prepared to integrate and wish to keep their own cultures and religious ways thats fine I can accept that too but dont do it here.

M Thompson
01 Nov 2007

The fact is that there are differences within the society and these should be seen as a positive asset. The minority (because of race, gender, sex, disability and class) should not be treated as disadvantage group. The minorities’ complaint for not being treated equal should be investigated and resolved rather than denied and pushed under the carpet. British when in India did not do as Indians did in India. British when in Africa did not do as Africans did in Africa. Why the proverb ‘While in Rome do as Romans do’ for the non British Citizens in UK? Are there British Citizens not in prisons outside UK? Secondly, not all British Citizens behave in similar manner therefore the Parliament would need to make laws regarding ‘how to do’ in UK. In order that British continue to do same way, British Citizen over the age of 16 would need to prove that he/she do as the British do say at the time of renewal of passport, when claiming state benefits, when voting, applying for employment or before having medical treatment. Lastly, having to work with the different nationalities or even having a partner from group of not of your own kind does not defend prejudice. Chander

chander
01 Nov 2007

Im glad you mentioned prejudice. I can think of several countries like India that have a far more class society than our own where poverty is rife. Killing children because they are of the wrong gender. Killing women and girls because they do not wish to marry and bring dishonour to their families. Many, many foriegn countries are far more intolerant to their own societies.Robert Migawbi springs to mind. Iraq for instance. Burma during this last few weeks. You always try to get at the British by using the same old history lessons from the turn of the nineteen hundreds. Well if you want history lessons remember the holercaust 1940's or Idi Ammen of Uganda 1970's.Its because of the freedom in the British way of life that allows people of all nationalities to march through the streets of London without getting shot by the Army. We are also allowed to vote for our leaders with out getting our heads kicked in. So another old proverb for you Chander. "Pull the plank of wood out of your own eye before you pull the splinter out of mine".

M Thompson
02 Nov 2007

M. Thompson has supported his own proverbs and Binna Kandola's study. My 'minority' consists of non whites, non British Citizens in UK, disabled people, gifted people regardless of sex, race or gender. Please read my all contributions before reply. Differences are there and these need to acnkowledged.

Chander
02 Nov 2007

I believe there have been moves by the British Government to allow people to become British Citizens. Unfortunately if you would rather stay a 'minority, non white' that is your own decision. Further to my previous point about prejudice and British treatment of NON WHITES as you put it. Do you not wish to judge or pass comment at the ways other countries treat their citizens like India which operates its own CASTE society, what is more prejudice than that. What about the rights of the 'minorities' when Infantcide (the killing of baby girls inparticular)is carried out. Honour killings, do these Pakistani girls as a minority not have rights. What about the rights of the people in Pakistan today, when Pervez Musharraf puts them under EMERGENCY LAW. What about the march in London a few days ago against the state visit by Saudi Arabia princes and the reasons for the march. I assume you where probably making your point there as well. You say in your comments about Britain ruling India for WHITES to get richer. Why are you so compelled to be verging on being racist yourself, always using the words NON WHITES etc. Your comment and I quote"I at least acknoledge my prejudice and it is not harmful to any person who is NON WHITE because since my work experience within the local council, I try to keep away from the majority". You seem to be doing a great job of cutting yourself off from society. Perhaps you find working or getting a job a struggle because WHITE MANAGERS as you put it and people you have tried to work with, find your patronising comments offensive. Where as at the place I work with people from several Eastern Countries, we get along great. With WHITE MANAGERS making special arrangments for them to pray and facilities for the washing of feet and acknoledging religious festivals. Allowing these people time off work to visit their country of origin for three or four weeks at a time. So yet another old British proverb to end on. People living in glass houses should not throw stones. In other words dont be to quick to criticise or put the blame on others when your probably as bad yourself.

M Thompson
03 Nov 2007

I am non white, belong to minority in UK and my life has been destroyed because of race problems at work and having to report the race problems the employer, a Local Government in UK. My aim is to work towards achieving Equality within Human Rights for individuals in UK before I can think of achieving Equality & Human Rights in other countries. There are too many internet sites in UK who deal with Human Rights matters in other countries but there are not even a handful sites involved in Human Rights in UK for UK Citizens. I believe that it is best to put our house in order first and charity begins at home. Therefore, I do not wish to make any comments on Human Rights or Equality in other Countries. By using the word ‘non –white’ is not to be seen as racist (please read the contribution ‘Finding the right words’ by Zia Sardar and my comments). I am non- white and do not see this word as offensive. Yes I accept my prejudice and I have my reasons for this. Those involved in my case over the last 7 years are aware of the reasons for my prejudice. My prejudice does not harm anyone but the prejudice of my ex employer Local Government and people who supported the needs of my ex employer have destroyed my life. Please do not make judgements without the knowledge of the reasons why I try my best to keep away form the white people. I am not cut away from the society just because I try my best to stay away from white people. Working with people or even having a partner from a group not of your own kind does not make one free from prejudice. It appears from M Thompson’s comment that a white person has assumed that non white person was patronising white managers. I have made my reason clear for entering this site and it would be interesting to know why various people enter this site. Please also read other contributions in this site and my comments. There are differences, acknowledge them and live with the differences them at both national and individual level. Discrimination is gift not to be abused.

Chander
04 Nov 2007

I don't think equality bodies are campaigning to get rid of the 'difference' but prejudice and discrimination that caused by it. Being ‘different’ is a way of identifying oneself. If someone prefer to be identify as Asian British for example, it means that they would like to take their ethnic origin into account as it is a part of who they are. The concept of ‘race’ is originally a grouping strategy to differentiate people with different physical attributes, it is a social construct and the term has generated a lot of debates over its definition. In society, it is convenient to generalise differences and identity people by using their race (and sometimes people get it wrong especial if people are not black or white), religious beliefs, disabilities, gender, age or sexual orientation. The tick box equal opportunity monitoring form does not help either, when there are choices between ‘White British’, ‘Asian British’, ‘Black British’ and so on, being a non-white British, I feel like I am lying if I tick the ‘White British’ box, it is not that I am not integrating but I feel a lot of systems in our society somehow managed to segregate people with different cultural backgrounds. ‘White’, ‘non-white’, ‘majority’ or ‘minority’, we are all trapped in using terms that elevate our differences further and further, create arguments that we don’t mean to. I think everyone who posted their views above is truly concern about the society we are living in and would like to see people from different 'identifiers' living in harmony, we need to re-focus and look beyond the terminology we inherited. I have mixed feelings when I see the discussion turn out this way. It is important to understand where prejudice come from and how to reduce its negative effects on us and those who live around us.

Carl
13 Nov 2007

Very well, then tell us where does prejudice comes from and how can we reduce its negative effects. May be, I would post your comments to the Local government and peope from high places who have been involved in my race case for the last 7 years and have distroyed my life.

Chander
13 Nov 2007

Chander, I am very sorry to hear that your life has been affected so greatly due to prejudice and discrimination. I don't think there is a straight forward answer on where prejudice comes from and how to reduce its negative effects i.e. discrimination. As Kandola's research indicated that even people who believes themseleves to be fair minded, they still have subconcious biases. In discrimination cases the level of biases and prejudice has been acted out and become unacceptable and damaging, this is very serious and there is no doubt about that. The law is asking very little compare to what prejudice can do to people, but yet some people still choose to break the law and openly discriminate against others. However, there are plenty of people out there who are trying their best to treat others as equal as they can and I think we need to recognise that.

Carl
14 Nov 2007

Thanks Carl, I haven't given up yet.

Chander
14 Nov 2007

For the attention of readers of this site. Dear MP Is it difficult for you, your country's Prime Minister, your country's trade union, your British doctors, your peer, your legal professionals, your country's Charites to admit that they have destroyed a Indian's life because I said that I had race problems at work and you all supported the Council to cover the race problem but your Government would allow muslim peers to travel to Sudan to save a white woman. It just shows how racist this Country is. Your Country would help British woman in Sudan or a Indian actress in UK because to save your image on the world stage but make Indain worker's life worthless in your own Country. Chander

Chander
02 Dec 2007

We were clever to have made Muslim peers who have been useful to help white British woman. But who would help individual from minority in this Country when the Prime Minister has refused to help in race matter in UK?

Chander
03 Dec 2007

I am finding this topic very interesting to read so far and I honestly hope Chander that you find some peace with what has happened to you - many people face discrimination and injustice, but it's how you use your experience of this that can make a difference to other people. I do, however, think you may need to reflect on how others have dealt with discrimination before accusing a large number of people of supporting your discrimination. Many people throughout history have faced hatred, bigotry and violence through ignorance, fear and hatred and have used this to empower their own cause to change things for the positive. I have faced discrimination, and still do, on a regular basis, but I am not letting someone else have the satisfaction of making me a victim. I am successful because I will not give up and I am happy because I am being the person I can be, regardless of whether other's agree with it or not. I hope you do find the support you need to help you to a more positive place and coming from a childhood where segregation was part of it, I can honestly say through experience that this is not the answer, this is the problem and causes deeper, long term issues that are far harder to deal with. A positive 2008 to everyone who finds there way here.

Tony B
04 Jan 2008

Thanks Tony. I agree with you that two individuals might deal with any experience in different manner according to each individual’s perception and we need to continue to live a positive life and not let someone have the satisfaction of making a victim but if we all decide not to challenge and submit to oppression then I am afraid Human Rights, Equality, Liberty and related concepts become non existence and meaningless. All I said to my ex employer, a Local Council where I was a social worker that I was being discriminated against my colour and the Council failed to investigate my grievances therefore I approached other people for help. The other people like Trades’ Union, MP, Occupational Health Doctors, Law Professionals without my knowledge were supporting the employer to end my employment rather resolve the grievances. I wanted to work in a safe environment. I was made to retire on early ill health grounds after 5 years since having taken out formal grievances. The name of the illness that was used to make me retire early remains unknown to me. Works and Pension are happy to pay me incapacity benefit without knowing the name of illness that I suffer from. I have been made unemployable pushed into disability model all because I said that I had RACE problems at work and these were acknowledged by most who have read my papers. I challenge ‘other people’ who were involved in the saga during the 7 year of my struggle. Even the Prime Minister of UK refused to help. I regret that you have not read 10000 papers and heard several audio tapes related to saga before having understanding of how my discrimination has been handled in your Country that is if you feel this is your Country. I am Indian in white people’s land.

Chander
04 Jan 2008

Chander. I am sorry that your own personal situation, seems to have been eating away at the very heart of you for several years. Unfortunately if you have contacted every type of individual or organisation that you say you have and they all seem to give you the same answer. Then you must just accept you dont have a case. This is one of the hardest things to acknoledge in life. It happens to thousands of individuals every day. You must have heard of the post code lottery but in case you have not I will explain. Its where an individual, which includes white, may not get medical treatment even LIFE SAVING treatment because the live in the wrong town or village. What is more prejudice than losing your right to life. From my own experiences as a shop steward I do not know how you have not been told the nature of your illness. Presumably you must know that you have the right under the freedom of information act to know what information your doctor or hospital has on you. If you worked for the council in the department you say you did you should also have known that Under the data protection act as an individual you have the right to know any personal information that is held on computer about you. So why you say you still dont know what your own illness is absolutely baffles me. You dont seem to mention this web site at all which you are writing on. This seems very strange as surely with your feelings so strong. You must have contacted the Equality & Human Rights Commision to see if anything could be done for you. Therefore I can only assume they too were unable to assist also. So at least be happy about one thing. Your getting money paid to you by the British Government which all us working people are paying taxes towards. I suspect this would not have happened back in India.

M Thompson
04 Jan 2008

Thank you for your concern. I had grievance at work and these should have been investigated according to the policies of the employer (in this case Local Council) but despite the Council having admitted that there were race problems they failed to investigate my grievances. The trades’ union had there own internal differences and were failing to address my concerns despite having admitted that there were race problems at work. I approached MP for help because trades’ union was messing me around. MP said that he did not have executive power to intervene in Local Government matter but he was involved over 6 years, behind the scene. I was not being informed what was going on behind my back. No legal professional was prepared to take on what had become a complex case. CRE refused to take on the case because they could only deal with race concerns at the time and the case was too complex. A mediation charity got involved with their own agenda how the case should settle, without my knowledge. The Legal firm that was to mediate on my behalf had an agenda of which I was not fully aware of. The Occupational Health Doctors, The Council and the Legal firm by mutual agreement decided to fix an early ill health retirement with the support from ET. The final medical report was forwarded to the employer without my consent. The medical report stated that returning to work would be delirious to my health. I challenged the Doctors involved but they could only apologise. Data Protection has its own rules and all information is not available as requested. Hearing needs money and in this case there are respondents who virtually run the Country. The file is at present with Equality and Human Rights Commission and I wait to see what they have to say. I am not in position to disclose the names or scan the copies of letters on this site but I believe that many different bodies have messed me up and my life has been ruined because of my colour of my skin in your Country. Most social workers end up unemployable and end their profession because of unprofessional conduct but I have been made unemployable because clients and co workers abused me. Yes, the saga is eating my heart and I need to mention that I also had a heart by pass whilst working for the Council. I cannot say whether I would have been better in India or not because I started to work in UK and have no experience of making a living in India. I have lived in UK for 40 years and have been active in the community in my own way for as long as I can remember. I urge you not to involve other Countries in this saga. But why mention India in the first place? Also been paid by the British Government is not the subject that might be appropriate here because I in the same manner as white working class have contributed taxes and paid my insurance stamps since I started working at an early age in UK. After the experience of how my grievances have been dealt with in UK, I do not feel I am proud to be British and I don’t feel I belong here. All I said was that I was experiencing race problems at work and all it was needed was to make the work place safer for me to work. But I was seen as threat. There are questions as a result of this saga which no one has answered them. Thank You for your concern. My comments at other contributions at this site might help you to understand my concerns. This has been written from top of my head and may not be used as a legal document.

Chander
05 Jan 2008

Quote, " I regret that you have not read 10000 papers and heard several audio tapes related to saga before having understanding of how my discrimination has been handled in your Country that is if you feel this is your Country. I am Indian in white people’s land." I am not sure how to respond to this comment to be honest and it is sad to feel that you don't feel proud to be "british" any more. I don't know the full details of your case, and this isn't the forum for it, however, all I am reading in your posts is how segregated you feel and this is a shame. As I tried to say, many people feel discriminated against for many different reasons, race, sexuality, disability etc and can cause a lot of horrible feelings that go with it, but making yourself more segregated is not going to be an good end result for you. I urge you to try and see that although you feel let down by a number of people the vast majority of people in this "country" (which is not as you say, "your country" but "our" country (as you said, you paid taxes etc etc) as inclusive, genuine and support people from all walks of life. There are a lot of people out there who I am sure you would find some positivity with, and without meaning to diminish what you have experienced, there are also a lot of people who are suffering extremes right now - perhaps helping some of them voluntarily will make you feel more positive about where you are right now?

Tony B
07 Jan 2008

Thank you for your concern. Please do not blame me for saying ‘your Country’ because I have been made aware that this is not ‘my Country’. Let us see if anyone has time to read my files and listen to the tapes about my case. I qualified as social work at a mature age considering the work as my last paid employment before retiring at 65, hoping to help all races but failed to realise that your Country was not ready for Indian social worker in white Community and Local Government where there were hardly any Indian clients. I did not even think that I would be only working with white clients when I started to work within the Local Government. I do not fell segregated because I have no desire to interact with majority any more. As far as I am concerned, I make my comments at an individual level (from grass roots) that relate to the topics made be the highly academic’s who specialise in Equality and Human Rights in your Country. Equality and Human Rights Commission claims to cater for individual’s rights. My complex case is with the Commission of its only kind in the world and what happens. Yes many people feel and are discriminated against for different reasons and most don’t even brother to complaint (see speech made by Mr. Phillips in which he uses a research to support that racial discrimination mostly takes place at work place and many workers/victims do not bother to do anything about the racial discrimination because they feel that reporting would not achieve anything meaning full. Just look at my case, I have become unemployable, live on small pension and incapacity benefit with my house at risk because I cannot make payments for my loans, my health had been affected and I have no reason to get up or to go to bed, all because I said I had race problems at work in your Country. Where were your race policies, unions, MP, Law professionals, Ministers, Prime Minster, CAB, Councillors, ACAS, Liberty and some other so called supporting agencies? Even Doctors, Local Government, Law professionals and Courts made arrangements by mutual arrangements to ruin Indian’s life in your Country. When I question then there are no replies. Do you really think I could help someone else whilst carrying my own baggage? Sir, please wake up, this site is for Equality and Human Rights. If all people who are suffering because of Equality and Human Rights continue to struggle for their right and take up cases then it might be possible that the victims would decrease in UK. I have been struggling for the 7 years. Thank you.

Chander
07 Jan 2008

And I will repeat, I am reading how you feel about the situation you have found yourself in Chander, but by continuously referring to where we both live as "your" country - i.e. not yours, aren't you continuing the segregation and blame that you seem to easily place at a large number of people for not helping you? I am sorry you find yourself in this position - as I said, many people are harrased, bullied, intimidated and lose work because of inequality, it's not a conspiracy against certain races - I have a large number of friends who are social workers and have come from all parts of the world to work here, in OUR country, to get the benefits that working in the UK has over other countries. As someone who has faced inequality for 36 years, I don't think I need to wake up - I think I smell the coffee every day and it never goes away, I just stand up and prove to myself that I am better than those who try to put me down.

Tony B
23 Jan 2008

Thanks for your care. Here is a copy of most recent letter to MP. I have deleted the names of the individuals and bodies involved. Dear MP Thank your email dated 28 September 2007. I am at great loss because you have failed to provide your present reasons for not taking the case further despite after about 6 years of your involvement the matter remains unresolved. Your unwillingness to take any further action related to racial discrimination at work and how discrimination has been handled in the Country not only caused further injury to me but has also so far proved how the Country has treated British Indian worker an employee of Local Government who simply took racial grievances at work. If you recognise that I feel strongly that I were and I am victim of discrimination and also most bodies (run by majority) have admitted my belief, even then if the matter remains unresolved in this Country then need I say more about the majority and my view of being British. Frankly, I state that it is the majority that would make the minority Proud British if the majority resolve the acknowledged racial discrimination problems and treat us equal not only on paper but also in practice. I, British Indian had racial problems at workplace. The racial problems were acknowledged by not only the employer, the Council but also by trades’ union and other bodies involved. The racial concerns were not investigated according to policies but I was became victim of reporting racism at work. The agenda for the ex employer the Council was not to resolve the concerns that I had but to end my employment. The bodies involved were not pressing employer to resolve the concerns but to help the ex employer to end my employment. The ex employer the Council were provided with the written incidents that I felt were racist and when I was been bullied and victimised. The ex employer admitted that my testaments were true and for this reason they admitted that there were racism at work. The trades’ union also admitted that there were racial and health & safety problems at work after they had seen the evidence. The Doctors admitted there were problems. Even the Employment Tribunal admitted that my claims were not vexatious and were genuine. The incidents were provided to employer under the heading of ‘CURRY’. The employer did not deny the incidents having taken place and acknowledged that I was experiencing racism. Also, it was the Local Council’s responsibility to investigate my complaint according to Racial polices and Health & Safety policy. I need not be blamed for the delay because as far I am concerned I at times acted according to so called my representatives and the delay was caused for appointments mainly with Doctors. I add that Employment Tribunal were well aware that the time delays were becoming part of the case. I would appreciate if you would provide me with examples of when and who attempted to help me to resolve the problem. As far as I am concerned I would have not approached trades’ union if employer would have ended the abuse that I continued to experience. I would have not approached MP in 2001 if trades’ union had helped me. I would have not approached national racial supporting body if it resolved the problem. I would have not approached Mediation agency if MP would have helped me. I would have not approached Local REC if law firm had no conflict of interest in the case. I was not aware of conflict of interest at the start of law firm’s involvement. I was also not aware of medication agency’s plan to end my employment on early ill health grounds. As far as I am concerned the bodies and individuals who claim to help me were in fact without my knowledge were supporting the employer, the Council to end my employment rather than resolve the racial concerns to enable me to work. Even the Doctors wrote reports according to the requirements of the Local Government’s policy in order to retire me early on ill health grounds. I have taken the concerns of ‘role of various bodies’ with appropriate bodies but these also remain unanswered. I would further add that during the last 8 years at times I was misguided by the ex employer and professionals, whom you claimed have helped me, made the case more complex. My vulnerability, naivety, lack of knowledge of the law and policies and victimisation were advantage to the employer and the bodies who were supporting the ex employer to end my employment and not address the race concerns. You are well aware of the number of the Government Departments including No 10 that I approached but help was declined. How can I put unhappy experience when my life has been destroyed because of colour of my skin? All I said was that I was experiencing race problems whilst working as a social worker for the Council in a hospital in UK. I wanted to work and not made to retire on early ill health grounds at the age of 53. I am now unemployable and live on state handout and my heart is getting weaker. I remind to you that I had a heart by pass whilst I was employee of the Council. I want to be proud to be British Indian if I am allowed to be one. I do not see early ill health retirement as a settlement and view it as expenditure of the Council towards my physical and mental punishment for rest of my life. I was not made to retire early on ill health grounds because of my heart related problems 2 years ago. The name of illness that I suffer from that made me retire early remains unanswered. Why have I lost right to work in this Country? I am adamant not be silence until the matter is resolved in a reasonable manner if not entirely according to my satisfaction. After all this Country spends millions on Human Rights, Equality and Democratic Rights for people in other countries and I am certain my concern could be resolved without having taken my concern to go to other countries. I wait to hear from you with the reason why you can’t take further action and how would this matter be resolved. Written evidence of the claims made in this letter can be provided on request. Yours sincerely Chander Sunak

Chander
23 Jan 2008

Chander, I am new to this site and found myself horrified by your story of how you percieve you have been let down. Its hard to believe this is happening in the 21st century. I dont think it matters if you view the UK as my country or our country or your country. Each and every one of us is entitled to dignity and respect at work and in our private lives. It may well be as one corresponadant has suggested that you do not have a case but it would appear from your comments that you believe you do and it is extremely difficult to carry on when you know or believe that you are right. I hope you continue to fight this and eventually get the help and support you need.

Anne
29 Feb 2008

The corresponandant who has suggested that I do not have a case has not read the 10000 papers or heard several tapes related to my claims. This is the case in which Indian was made to retire early on ill health by mutual agreement after about 5 years since I had taken out the grievances with the ex employer. Ex employer (The Local Government in this case)legal professionals, doctors and even ET were involved in arranging the early ill health retirement. What a Country to live in which the The Prime Minister who allows his own people to be killed for Human Rights in other Countries stated that he can not help in the matter (it was race matter at work). Now the important corncern is how Indain worker's complaint has been dealt with in UK and who has suffered rather than justifing whether the claims were true or not. By the way the ex employer had admitted that there were race problems at work. The trades' union, the doctors and ET admitted that my claims were true. In this Country those in power close the file rather tnan answer the questions or simply do not reply. The MP involved has not replied my letter that has been coopied in this site.

Chander
03 Mar 2008

Out of interest, Binna Kandola is a man - I wonder why people assume it was a woman? Some kind of latent bias?

amcdermott
14 Mar 2008

'Binna' is a common name for females in some parts of India. I am sorry for my misunderstanding.

Chander
14 Mar 2008

Bias/ Prejudice --different spellings but same reaction when application for job is made. MYwife is white Dutch. I am Nepalese and our son Mani Raj John Chhetri. British by birth; bilingual in Dutch and English. Double graduat BA in Social Policy of U.K. from Royal Hollowway, University of London . Applications turned down. two years later MSc in International Business Relation, Exeter University. Jobs Applications Blankd. Works in tendering for a company dealing with Ford Jaguar and Land Rover. Work ethic excellent ;Loyalty to employer ,excellent . Hate to be part of quotq for ethnics just to satisfy the category. Disadvantaged by ? his names ;first names and Surname. Totally loyal to U.K. Tolerant of races, religions, cultures and traditions. Friends from all aspects of Diversity. Ashis father I am just as frustrated as he is at the juncture he is. Who said names, race and colour do not matter. Late Peter Seller, who disguised himself in differnt roles indifferent racial identity new better. I came here fort years ago and trained as both general and Psychiatricnusre; first Nepali or Gurkha Lineboy to break away from soldering stereo-typing. British loved Gurkhas. I was lucky. Locals treated me well.Unlike other foreign nurses I managed to "tresspass" BIAS and prejudices. I often wonder if my son had an Anglo-Saxon name he might have been in a better position. My family, right from my great grand father served this country well. Even my late mother as amidwife was awarded a BEM. I am a Diversity and Equality advisor in my Mental Health Trust. Why bother? eQUALITY IN ACCESSINGT TO OPPORTUNITY MATTERS, FOR DISABILITY, GENDER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, AGE, FAITH, RACE , SOCIAL DEPRIVATION and believe or Not Colour which sometimes becomes a COLOUR-BAR. As a child in the Far East, learning English Language I used to think Colour Bar was a Public house with colourful electric lights until my West Indian fellow student nurse put me intrue light forty years ago. I escaped from Bias/Prejudice but it is likely my son could be a casualty of this human infirmity or defect that has the potential of blighting the potential of mixed race child who could contribute to the wellbeing of the society and the economy and security of this nation. I believe God is the author or Diversity and Multi-Culture. Ironically Britain is the mother of Multiculturism. As I grew up in the last vistages of the British Empire in the Far East amongst Malays, Chinese, Indians, Eurasians , Arabs AND ALL THESE PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT FAITHS, IT WAS THE bRITISH WHO ENCOURAGE CELEBRATIONS OF FESTVALS OF DIFFERENT RACES AND FAITHS, GIVING PUBLIC HOLIDAY FOR EACH FAITH TO PROMOTE HARMONY IN THE COLONIES. So the Kelaidoscope of colours and melting pot of faiths and races contribute to the Imperial coffers known to British as The Treasury. History has the tendency to repeat. Paradoxically, they still practised the "PURDAH" . Integration and social cohesiveness did not exist in their Imperial policy. Divde and rule being the norm. tHE ETHOS OF cHRITIANITY IS OUT OF THE WINDOW, MASSIVE CATHEDRALS JUST THE EMPTY VESSELS MAKING LOD NOISES WITHOUT SUBSTANCE OR PRACTICALITY. On the other hand in fairness to the Indigenous Brits the Immigrants are also the perpatrators of their own Bias and Prejudices and Bias on religous, colour and racial grounds; probably worse than the emancipated locals. So Diversity,Equality and Human Rights are casualties in our backyards here and in the continents we came from. Bias and Prejudices in the Animal World is territorial.Enoch Powelll's River of Blood is the reflection of the nightmare of Territorial rights which we already see between "OLD/ESTABLISHED IMMIGRANTS and the "NeWCOMERS" in areas of predominantly ethnic populations. Tell me who is not absolutely biased or prejudiced . But the Vicrims of biased and prejudices are our children born and brought up here. Their aspirations and values are British. What are the solutions for this human infirmity? iT TOOK cELTS, aNGLES, sAXOND, vIKINGS, nORMANS AND PEOPLE FROM LOW COUNTRIES in this land many centuries to mould into British and lose bias and prejudices. How long will it take our children, born here to be British. Legislations are in place to respond to unfair treatment/practice. It is up to each individual to to make it work by being the eyes, nose, ears, mouth-tongue and conscience to tacle Bias.

Rajen Chhetri
03 May 2008

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