Action against internment

It is high time that we moved from the language and analysis of 'civil liberties' to one of post-Second World War universal and fundamental 'human rights'

 

There is no excuse for longer periods of pre-trial detention, argues Shami Chakrabarti

I often feel like a portent of doom: as the director of Liberty, when you see me in the news, you can be sure that something ominous is happening. Such as the suggestion – all too frequently hitting the headlines these days – that priority be given to extending beyond 28 days the period for detaining suspects for questioning before they are charged with any offence.

The long and dark days of the ‘war on terror’ have taken their toll on our civil liberties; though we have had moments of optimism in rational and non-partisan leadership, we have also lived through years of lost opportunity, division and despair. While our new prime minister responded calmly and without knee-jerk reaction to the attempted terrorist attacks earlier this year, his recent consideration of extending the period of time which suspects can be detained for before they are charged with anything is disappointing. And it is something that should concern us all, because its potential effects on British society may be very dangerous.

Any extension of pre-charge detention is simply internment by another name – and we should have learned a painful lesson about internment from the disastrous example of Northern Ireland. At 28 days, we already have the longest pre-charge detention period for terror suspects in the free world. The proposed safeguards of judicial supervision and parliamentary oversight are mere fig leaves, which cannot remedy the fundamental arbitrariness of this policy.

The idea that judicial supervision will act as a safety measure is flawed: we had ‘judicial involvement’ in the infamous Belmarsh internment policy, and we have it with the now discredited control orders. Judicial supervision is necessary for fair trials and lawful detention, but simply having the necessary is not always enough. The heart of a fair trial comes with knowing the accusation against you and having the opportunity to contest it.

Imagine a young (probably Muslim) man or woman detained for 56 days without charge. If they are charged following confessions on the 55th day of their detention, for example, there may be real or perceived concerns about their treatment and the validity of any such admissions. 

And what is the effect upon the innocent set free at two months? They have served the equivalent of a custodial prison sentence, without ever having been charged with a criminal offence. They have been clearly labelled terrorists. They may have lost their jobs, their homes and quite possibly the trust of some family and friends. And most worrying of all, extremists may have sidled onto the scene, filling the legal vacuum, visiting parents and younger siblings. ‘There's your so-called British justice’, they will claim, in an echo of Northern Ireland. ‘It won't protect you. Only we will.’

Excessive pre-charge detention, with or without judicial supervision, leads to injustice and alienation. It divides society and cuts off vital intelligence and support from the police and security services. The veneer of legality provided by judicial supervision merely compromises our judges by involving them in executive detention.

Where judicial oversight can play a useful role in the response to terrorism is once a person has been charged. As an alternative to extending pre-charge detention, independent judges could provide a vital safeguard against abuse or oppression during post-charge questioning – which is already permitted in some circumstances. The crucial concerns here are to ensure that a person has been properly detained and charged in the first place and that he or she is not being subject to constant, lengthy and oppressive questioning between an initial charge and any subsequent charges or trial.

Other measures, like the use of intercept evidence and post-charge questioning, have long been suggested by other parties, including Liberty, as more proportionate alternatives to what is effectively internment.

With regards to intercept evidence, it is high time that judges, rather than politicians, issued warrants for telephone tapping (as had long been the case in pre-Bush America). And given that it is sometimes necessary and proportionate to intrude on people’s privacy, why on earth should there be an absolute legal bar to using relevant material in court? The concerns relate to security rather than privacy. Some have raised fears that sources or techniques may be compromised, but democracies the world over use the products of interception successfully in fair criminal trials, and I would argue that we are equally capable of doing so.

If I place a listening device in your bedroom, any evidence gained from doing so is potentially admissible in court. If I listen in on your mobile phone conversation, I can never use the material, however relevant. This is not just nonsensical, but also hinders proper cooperation with the many other countries who allow intercept evidence to be used in court.

In addition, before looking to introduce new and frightening legislation, we should be considering what is already on the statute book. The Civil Contingencies Act 2004 already provides for true and temporary emergencies. It contains a broad power to make emergency regulations subject to parliamentary and judicial oversight – including a power to extend pre-charge detention periods for up to 30 days at a time. Politicians should review the chilling emergency powers they already have before seeking to change the law and take Britain into a permanent state of emergency that terrorists would relish.

The previous prime minister viewed the rule of law as an old-fashioned inconvenience. This seemed to apply to international and domestic policy, to terrorism and petty crime alike. Our new prime minister has an opportunity to change this vision. He can be truly tough on terrorism by leading a democratic consensus based upon rights, freedoms and the rule of law.

In a democracy, it is inevitable that more people are arrested than charged and more are charged than convicted. But the message that extending pre-charge detention in the UK would send to other countries would be devastating to our proud reputation for tolerance, fairness and justice.

If the Brown government really wants to open the next 'chapter of British Liberty', it is high time that we moved from the language and analysis of 'civil liberties' to one of post-Second World War universal and fundamental 'human rights'. This builds on the great Magna Carta tradition, but adds the lessons of the Holocaust - that freedom and fairness without dignity and equal treatment are insufficient protection against those who would abuse their power.

After all, not only would plans to lock up terror suspects for longer than 28 days without charge violate the human rights declarations and conventions of Eleanor Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, they would take us back to life before 1215.

Shami Chakrabarti is director of Liberty. Find out more about Liberty’s campaign ‘Charge or release’.

27 Comments

Is it possible for Shami Chakrebarti to add more to her contribution that explains: Why the need for extension of precharge detention has become a concern? Why Liberty is concerned about the extension and fails to mention how to stop the offence?

Mohan
13 Nov 2007

I do not see how by use of yellow journalese and hyperbole and sly digs at our elected representatives, which Ms. Chakrabati is not, has added anything to her weak argument. The closing Holocaust comment and last paragraph is nonsensical and ahistorical since Human Rights existed before the Second World War. The same rights and universality totally rejected by those at the Cairo Conference of the Islamic Organisation. Our rights are 'under attack', by the Islamist terrorists. It is they whom have alienated and separated and put under suspicion their co-religionists. That was their aim and only the Muslims can police that kind of threat truely effectively. So long as they do not then it will be done for them and the impact that has upon them will be for as long as the political violence and Islamist extremist politics is allowed in their midst. I also resent and reproach Chakribati for her remarks that imply increased security or the War of Terror has caused or justifies Islamist terrorism. She has her causality completely upside down on that and the thinly veiled threat of more political violence to come if we do not change our policy justifies more 'oppression' not less. She works for Liberty, not the MCB or MAB.

Iain
14 Nov 2007

May I ask which “post-Second World War universal and fundamental ‘human rights’” build upon Magna Carta? Has she not read the many civil and criminal law cases in the late 1990s where judges have said that law is in the ‘interregnum’? That is one sovereign (the English common law) is dead and the new sovereign ‘human rights’ is waiting to ascend to the ‘throne’? Thanks to the notion of ‘protecting the freedoms and rights of others’ within which an inexhaustible supply of rights can be manufactured – Magna Carta, the 1689 Bill of Rights and English common law based upon Judaeo-Christian values are dead. How then can “universal and fundamental 'human rights'” build upon Magna Carta? It was once asserted by the Great Chief Justice of England in the 17th century, Sir Edward Coke, that Magna Carta is such a fellow that he ‘has no brother’. For Magna Carta to have a ‘brother’ (a rival judicial authority) would mean that the rule of law would break down. When King Charles I introduced a series of measures that evinced he was superior to Magna Carta: this country descended into bloody civil war. How is it that she does not realise that manufacturing more and more rights would mean suppressing the ‘rights of others’? For example, in order not to breach the 1861 Offences Against the Person Act parents need to have the same knowledge as trained criminal law lawyers to administer corporal punishment. How now do parents and single mothers, for example, train children who have not developed their rational faculties? Presumably by guile or ignoring their children's anti-social behaviour? If that is the case then is it any wonder we are producing a clever generation of little devils and by default engendering the broken society?

D. Singh
15 Nov 2007

It all depends what sort of society you want to live in. You have the option of a more draconian system, where you can be interrogated without charge for a significant period of time. Those in favour will say it will help reduce the terroist threat. I haven't seen any evidence (and surely it would be good PR for their argument to provide it) to suggest that extending the existing time-limit wll do that. However, if we were smarter about our foreign policy, I believe that threat would be significantly reduced at a stroke. I am proud to be British, and fully agree that any terroist who attacks our basic principles in our own country should feel the full force of the law. However there is no contradiction in beleiving this and also not wanting to see our country pervert those basic principles itself. Finally, to imply that because someone is not an elected official that their argument is somehow less valid, is nonsense.

james
16 Nov 2007

The arguement for the extension of longer period of detention is valid considering the nature of global Terrorism. This is not your ordinary kind of criminal offence to be dealt with under normal Criminal Law. It merits a special approach because people who perpetrate these atrocities against innocent persons as experience has shown, are linked to others who are not 'locals' in the United Kingdom but who live abroad. The effort to go abroad, track down and secure evidence to convict such individuals is difficult considering how elusive their co-conspirators can be. Obviously a good amount of time is required to do this if individuals who carry out such heinous acts must be brought to justice and deter others. The terrorists in Northern Ireland were predominantly locals and it was easy to secure evidence against them locally. Same cannot be said for those who operate internationally. It is a difficult task for the Security services and they must be given the necessary time to function effectively in order to safeguards lives and property.

Tony Fyanka
19 Nov 2007

It is the very nature of the recent terrorist activities that is driving the need to extend the detention period. The groups involved are secretive and clearly difficult to track down and identify. It appears (from the limited amount of imformtion we are allowed to see) that our security services have been quite efficient in preventing other terrorist outrages in the past few years. In support of the Human Rights of the 99.999% of the population who do not support or condone these terrorist activies we need to get these bad-minded people out of circulation. The UK is a very fair, generous and open society (just look at the amount of non-UK citizens who want to live here), however by the same token we need to protect ourselves against those who want to destroy our way of life. The only people who should be afraid of extended detention periods are those who are terrorists or those who associate with them. Of course no system is perfect, the UK legal and policing system certainly isn't, however I feel I can sleep safer in my bed (or indeed catch a flight or a train) when our leaders are putting the Human Rights of the mass population ahead of the terrorists and thier associates.

Chris
22 Nov 2007

But the point, people, is that if the plods have enough evidence to arrest, then why don't they have enough to bring a charge? To detect a varmint they would usually need a tip off from some member of the public, leading to a spot of surveillance to see if there's anything in it, some phone tapping and phoning around the foreign spooks in the hope of getting a connection to Osama Bin Big, by which time they damn well ought to have enough to arrest the goon AND charge him with it? If in the course of this they think the fool might be about to blow, then they grab him at once along with any pals he's been hanging out with. And charge them all with conspiracy to commit murder. We have enough anti-terror laws on the books already and remember, in extremis they can just blow you away for being a Brazilian in the wrong place at the wrong time, just in case. Clear and present danger. What it says to me is our witless government are panicking and just trying to act tough - but just because a law sounds tough, doesn't mean it actually works. They don't have a clue who might actually be a terrorist, are witless in working out how to find out, and think they will succeed by going fishing for hapless men with beards and keeping them banged up until some of them squeal. Just like they tried with the provos. Which didn't work. Dumb and dumber. Government by knee jerks. Don't come crying to me or Ms Chakrabarti when you find yourself kicking your heels at Her Maj's pleasure for 2 months solid just because the plods have made a clerical error and thought you looked "a bit foreign" when they bundled you away at the crack of dawn. "What have I done?" you ask. "You know what, sonny Jim", says plod. "But I haven't done anything!" you say - "That's what they all say", says plod. Sure, you'll get out eventually. By which time you've been fired. And everybody is going round calling you "the guy who got fired for being a jihadi" and saying "I didn't even know he was a muslim!". Let alone if you actually were a muslim. Or foreign. Or black. Or looked at them a bit funny. If you actually read the article, you would see that Ms Chakrabarti has suggested some sensible alternatives to this latest piece of agitcrap. Why can't they use phone tap evidence? Question them further after bringing charges? Employ more spooks to infiltrate their terror groups? Civil rights protect all of us innocent people from fools in the bureaucracy and aren't just there to pamper the guilty like they think in the Daily Wail. We've had this right to know what the charges are against us since Magna Carta. Dumb, and dumber.

Gavin Shreeves
22 Nov 2007

Shami Chakrabarti could well be arguing about the Mental Health Act. If you apply MHA principles to terrorism my feelings are that any possible terrorist given a pre-trial detention of less than six months is getting a good deal.

David
27 Nov 2007

Seeing the appalling way a teacher was treated in Sudan for naming a teddy bear after Mohammed one wonders at the mentality of these people whose minds are so corrupted by religion they they would kill this teacher for an innocent mistake. If this mentality exists within the minds of individuals in Great Britain then those who pose a threat must be detained as long as possible until the Police and and Security Services have carried out their investigations. One can only see the slaughter of innocent Muslims by Muslims in Iraq to know security comes at a heavy price. For all.

Terry McAnish
01 Dec 2007

Do you want to know the way your Country has treated me because I said that I had race problems at work? Indian employee of local Government in UK. Please put your house in order first.

Chander
01 Dec 2007

At least they have set British free after two British Muslim peers had a word with them. In my case your Prime Minister said that he was unable to help me in race matter,let alone your MP, your trade union, your peer, your legal professionals who got togather to make me unemployable. Furthermore, ven your doctors signed the papers according to the requirements of your Government in order to mess up my life and the case still continues after 7 years even though I had a heart by pass that might have been due to race problems at work. What kind of mentality does the majority in UK have and what right does the majority have to destroy Indian's life in UK?

Chander
03 Dec 2007

Lets talk about Human Rights and Liberty at grass route level. In a fair Country my saga would have not destroyed my life if the employer (in this case employer was Council) would have followed its policies. The employer failed to investigate my complaint of racism at work. Many bodies have played part in the saga but were unable to resolve the matter, despite having admitted that there were racial problems at work place. No one helped or made an effort to support me but without my knowledge supported the employer with the aim to end my employment rather than confront racism at work in order that I could continue to work. In order to have a fair hearing this case would need an investigation but I don't think this would happen because I don't think an Indian's life is important in this Country. Secondly, the case cannot be heard at Courts because of the number of bodies involved in the saga and the legal expense involved for the hearing would be too much for an Indian’s life. Even the ex Prime Minister of the Country has said that would not help in the matter. I would be a great fool in the Country to say that lets take the Prime Minister to Court. There are also other people from high positions who are involved in the saga who could be well exposed if investigation was to take place or the case went to Courts which I understand is not going to happen for an Indian worker in UK. Even the Doctors have played a large part in the saga. I have taken my concerns with those I believed were involved in the saga but I was unable to take each individual to Courts because of the funding. I am a worker who does not enough money to repay my loans let alone pay legal professional to consent law firms, Charities, Trade union, MP, Prime Minister, Doctors, Local and National or Local Equality offices. In the end my need is to bring an end to the saga and live my life. I cannot throw the files away and forget the whole saga. And I would not take Sorry for the answer because Sorry alone does not provide me to have quality of life. I have been advised to take the case to House of Lords, EU or Human Rights in EU but I do not have knowledge or money to do this. I often read reports and speeches by the heads of various bodies including EHRC who claim that individual is also important in UK but so far I do not see that happening in my case. I wait to hear Equality and Human Rights Commission the only kind of the body in the world to respect an individual's case and bring the matter to an end.

Chander
06 Dec 2007

It is clear that we are at risk from terrorism some,perhaps all, of which is inspired by religious fundamentalism. how are we to minimise the risk? What we cannot do is to expel every non-white, non-caucasian from our country. That would have left me here - I am half Irish and how to uou know I am not harbouring a grievance ( quire likely if you saw my tax bill!) And how sure are we of the Scots - perhaps we should bring back Marshal Lawe. Nor can we gaol the whole population and only release those we are sure are safe. The only hope we have is be as tolerant as possible- realising that every individual is capable of a range of responses- each of us can at different times and circumstances be sweetly reasonable or wildly irrational. The measures proposed by Shami seen sensible and I believe the detention period without charge should not be increased- the very serious risks will not disappear but will not be magnified as I think extension would bring about. we should also consider the use of holding charges as used in other EU countries.

Des
07 Dec 2007

I don’t understand why white British feel that they are risk from terrorism because I think non white British are also at risk from the white British in this Country. The aim should be to resolve the differences rather than continue to blame the other for one’s own fear. The differences can only be resolved if they are not denied. Secondly, there are parties that have polices to expel non whites from this Country and considering the racial problems have increased over the years and are on increase it might be in best interests for non whites to settle in the Countries where non whites are in majority before history repeats Increasing extension or to remain tolerant would not change the relationship but to resolve the grievances and treat equal at grass routes would make this Country safe. Just look at the informal separation of ethnicity and the problems because of colour in this Country. How many non whites have second homes back home and how many retired non whites spent part of the year back home and why the retired people return to UK? How many non white born in UK have racial problems and where are these problems and why? On the other level who went on other's soil to preach freedom and Human Rights when there are Human Rights problems in this Country? Readers might not like me talking about my own case but I have learned a lot form my racial treatment within Local Government and how the my complaint has been treated by people with high postions involved in the matter. Of Course, I do not have the money to contest. I hope I would not need to take above this Commission.

chander
07 Dec 2007

I take it chander your living here, you do seem to be a very racist bloke with your white this and that, and then your prime minister, I take it your not British then just living here for what reason you obviously have a problem with whites. If I had put up the words blacks in the context you keep using I have been looking at a ban. Seems you can use white as many times as you like while we who are white have to watch what we say. If you want to know about being treated unfair mate i can give you lots of cases for myself, I am disabled mate. The fact is for many many years in fact going back to the Romans we have been a mixed culture, we have in the main lived together happy most of the time, sadly some time religion has got in the way the wars of the Roses Old Henry the V111 argument with catholic, but on the whole we have lived and integrated well. I have no problems with people of mixed race or any race or religion so long as the do not try and interfere with my life. Labour has been the biggest problem here with it's PC mentality, we should not put up national flags we might annoy somebody, we should not put up Christmas decorations it might annoy somebody, this year we should be careful when putting on plays at schools we might annoy somebody. Yet last year in our local schools Christmas plays numerous Muslim children took part because the theme was love and forgiveness, with snow and father Christmas, this year it's been stopped because it might annoy somebody. I get a card from my Muslim neighbors each year with happy holiday on it. The fact is again it's a Colour issue and a religious issue, 99% of Muslim think the bombers are mad evil and causing hate, so should be lock up 75% of Muslims because we think they are guilty, did we lock up 75% of catholic because of the IRA. The fact is we live in a country which can have people bomb us remember the nail,bomber, he just did not like people. life is dangerous we can get killed walking the roads. Let the law rule within democracy, if your guilty of something you should be locked up under the limits laid down by the governments if people cannot prove a bomber is a bomber within 36 hours something is sadly wrong with out police for, who the hell wants a innocent person locked up for 90 days not me.

Robert
10 Dec 2007

Whether I am racist or not is not for me to judge. You are welcome to read about 10000 documents and listen to several audio tapes related to my saga before you decide to call me racist. I have been made unemployable by the Local Government because I said I had race problems at work. Most bodies who have been involved in the matter over 7 years despite having admitted that there were racial problems at work supported the Local government to end my employment rather than resolve the race problems in order that I continue to work. Your trades’ union, MPs, legal professionals, Charities who claim to help minority, Local Government and Communities Office, DTI, Ministry of Justice, PM, CAB, Courts, doctors, ACAS, Local Government Employers’ Organisation, Certification Office, Ombudsmen, BMC, law Society, Works and Pensions and some others have been involved in the matter during the last 7 years and now the file rests on the desk of the Chair of Equality and Human Rights. There is nothing wrong to be called white or black but I think it is crime to be racist and to destroy British Indian social worker’s life because he had reported race problems at work is far worse than been executed. An executed victim dies and suffering ends but a living person whose life has been destroyed because of colour of skin cannot sleep at night. Who is racist you or me? Ban me from the site would not stop my suffering.

Chander
10 Dec 2007

We are right to oppose detention without charge for any period longer than 7 days. We have a long tradition of separating powers in our constitution, one that is tollerant and non judgmental, innocence until proven guilty being the main stay. The main stay of a period of detention is to punish an individual for crimes or wrongs that they have comitted. To hold a person for a period longer than reasonable to determine facts, is in my view a custodial sentence, no matter how the government dress it up. Some offenders, who are proven guilty by courts of law, serve lesser sentences than 42 days. How can any democratic society believe that to detain without trial, for any period equal to or similar to a custodial sentence, ever be able to deem that reasonable, or legal. Civil liberties need to be voiced and it is high time that the citizens of this great nation of ours, no matter what their ethnic origin, sood up and made their views heard by government. The biggest question in my mind is: Where will all this end?

Robert Clark
16 Dec 2007

This will end after war bigger than ever, before the climate change has its full effect. Just look into the way white race treated other races and what the most recent researches related to ‘colour of skin’ within the white peoples’ lands are saying. Then look at recent small battles at all levels. We all from all nations need individual meaning to live but the person in power from all levels would not allow this meaning to be positive for an individual not unless there is personal gain thus no human rights or civil liberties at any level. Human rights, civil liberties and so forth are words that have no meaning or use among individuals at all levels who maintain power. I have lived in this great nation for most of my life and therefore can only write about my experience as an individual in the nation that claims to have fair hearings, justice and tolerance along with stiff lip. I am proud that the majority from all levels have made me realise that I do not belong here and had been detained here for many years so does it matter to me where I sleep tonight?

Chander
18 Dec 2007

What has Shami to say about £1000 deposit before my brother can visit me from India or this is not her body's concern?

Chander
19 Dec 2007

Even one day without a fair trial is too long never mind 28 days as we have curretntly. It seems like everyone has the right to fair trial except if you are a Muslim. It use to be one is innocent untill proven guilty but know it seems if your brown, black and with a beard you guilty by assocation and have to prove your innocent.

Maqsood Ahmed
25 Dec 2007

The Queen has now asked majority to take care of us therefore we need not worry now.

Chander
25 Dec 2007

I think Shami is spot on. We are sleepwalking into a police state with a government intent on chipping away at civil liberties under the guise of increased security and counter-terrorism. In fact, although there is clearly terrorism and a terrorist threat, this is immensely exaggerated as governments seek to create a climate of control, fear and ideological purpose in an age where their legitimacy and purpose is diminishing. Surely a greater examination of global economics or western foreign policy would be more effective than eroding the civil liberties that generations of Britons have fought so hard to win and preserve. All indications show that giving up liberty for security won't guard against this supposed global menace but could actually fuel the problem - Pakistan being a great example of this. ID cards, the surveillance society, big brother, control orders, emergency 'Enabling Acts...all lead to one thing a police state, abuses of power, corruption, torture, wrongful imprisonment and ultimately greater instability, conflict and rebellion. ID cards and extension of the pre-trial detention period with be Labour's 'Poll Tax' and will mark the end of Brown - it is total political suicide.

P.McCord
04 Jan 2008

28 days or 55 days would not make any difference to a ‘Terrorist’ because this person sees him or herself as a fighter for liberty. Secondly, the number of days would not make any difference to the damage made upon the suspect because 28 days damage caused is not any different to the damage caused by 55 days. Thirdly, if the authority believes that suspect is threat then it would ruin suspect’s life regardless to proven guilty or not. Fourthly, this Country likes to talk a lot of Liberty, Human Rights and Equality in other Countries but when Liberty and Human Rights are raised in this Country the governing bodies deal conflict with strategies that enable the weaker not be able to reach a point to achieve hearing let alone justice. I regret that readers might not like me to continue mentioning my saga but from my racial grievances at work within the Local Government in your Country, I have learned a lot about Liberties, Human Rights, Equality and Justice when the authority is at stake. I have great honour for the agencies in your Country who unite when confronted with self inflected unrest, in my case my grievances were seen as a threat from a Indian social worker within Local Council and the agencies started supporting the needs of the Local Government and each other. Just imagine threat at international level. Shami would be better off using the funds and her energies fighting for the causes that create unrest because of colour in her own Country if she has fully integrated to qualify as British at informal and formal level rather than wasting taxpayer’s money to fight for threat related to retain western power at international level not unless Liberty is funded by Countries that are involved in the conflict.

Chander
04 Jan 2008

I want to suggest to readers that the most insidious abuses are taking place beyond our gaze in places well out of the public eye, and not in the usual places of detention. What follow is an account which shows how this takes place out of sight. I seek to sure this is not out of mind, and the reader will want to expose these abuses and the abusers behind them. Some observations I want to escort the reader securely, deep into the territory of the Royal Edinburgh Hospital, where lies the Orchard clinic, a 2-storey precinct decked in faded Kingfisher panelling and as unbreachable as an ancient fortress. The occupants are held as offenders against certain statutes of Government and Executive in retribution for their offences. Her Majesty can derive no pleasure from the processing of these people so confined under a regime of thorough scrutiny, examination and vigilance. Secure units ensure that every eventuality is anticipated and potential for trouble liquidated, with precautions that rival the security of any place of detention anywhere. Mobile Phone ownership is prohibited, and iPods are scrutinised pixel by pixel, decibel by decibel, for subversive content. Patients possess nothing of value. In restricted areas, smoking is permissible, but not the lighting of cigarettes. My visit to Redwood ward was presaged by form-filling and undertakings to take nothing with me onto the ward and to meet with my client under full invigilation of a watchful member of staff. Paranoia surfaces briefly as I produce a partly consumed bottle of water. The water has to be replaced with water from Redwood ward taps. Nothing passes between me and my client but by leave of a member of Staff. My client is barred from so much as stepping out into a secure walled garden. This is a Hospital so the regulations pertaining to taking exercise applicable to prisons, do not apply at Redwood. From a slim build, my client has lost 3 stone in as many months. A cloak of confidentiality and tight security ensures that only those actively seeking out the Orchard clinic would become mindful of its whereabouts. Little of it connects with the scheme of things in the rest of the hospital, so its concealment is almost total. People are held there until statutes, orders and the resolution of legal proceedings provide indicators of a change of disposition towards the patient. The Party line could never be more compelling in its single-minded instruction on how to relate to each patient than these orders from on high. Forensic treatment orders, tribunals and reviews are the order of the day, and exclude any informal consideration as to what would be in the interests of a patient from his or her viewpoint. The patient lives in a suspension of medication, routine and a miasmal hiatus which seemingly has no end. A self-serving regime of psychiatry provides its own version of everything humanely questionable, by its monopoly of instruments of mind-alteration, with its own self-generating goals and outcomes and regime justificaton. You and I would not be party to its deliberations; its tyrannies are well concealed, but I know that their interpretations of liberty, rights and personal freedoms would have Tom Paine deeply vexed. Yet unknown to us, this place exists in our midst, no one is empowered to change its workings and even though the raison-d’etre of such places as Secure units may be lost on 21st Century man, its position and role is entrenched and unmovable. Is this the face of the Brave New World of Mental Health in Scotland today?

Rodrigo Portico
17 Jan 2008

In this Country there are not many groups that would help individuals to contest human rights and for this reason the Country gets away with ill treatment of individual citizen. Take my case as an example: An employee, of Indian ethnicity takes out grievance because of race problems with employer, Local Government in 2001. In 2002, I employee is sent home from work and in 2005 I am made to retire early on ill health grounds by mutual agreement of employer, solicitor and doctors and with agreement of Employment Tribunal. The Doctor stated that returning to work would be delirious to my, employee’s health. No name, cause or treatment of the illness was mentioned in the doctor’s report. I have been made unemployable and disabled because I said that I had race problems at work. I have been struggling with the case for last 8 years and had approached several individuals and bodies but none were able to contest or resolve the concern. Where were your race policies, unions, MP, Law professionals, Ministers, Prime Minster, CAB, Councillors, ACAS, Liberty and some other so called supporting agencies? Even Doctors, Local Government, Law professionals and Courts made arrangements by mutual arrangements to ruin Indian’s life in your Country. When I question then there are no replies. Of Course, my employment ended because the employer did not want me to work for them but my concerns remained unheard or resolved. By the way I was social worker. Isn’t sitting home and not able to pay my bills and mortgage going to be delirious to my health. I am not surprised reading Rodrigo Portico’s comment and agree with him that the most insidious abuses are taking place beyond our gaze in places well out of the public eye, and not in the usual places of detention.

Chander
19 Jan 2008

Shami is an apologist for enemies of humanity and decency. I care not one jot that people are detained until the authorities have sufficient evidence (or not). One has to assume that the police will only arrest those they suspect of potential or actual crimes. If you reject that premise , then all else falls over. The squealers who say they didn't do anything wrong forget that : ' If you lay down with dogs, you will wake up with fleas'. In other words, be careful of the company you keep. Sorry Shami, but you are very selective with which causes you support and frankly lack credibility with the public because of that.

JACQUES
28 Feb 2008

In other words I British Indian male, should have been careful not to work for a Local Council as a social worker in UK because that is were I woke up with fleas that have ruined my life.

Chander
29 Feb 2008

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